MAX de pression, suivi d'1 Miracle !

[yaf]

Je suis dans un petit satellite (12$ double shootout) pour le Sunday million. Il reste 5 joueurs, et il y a 4 sièges, et l'idiot du village lui gagnera un gros 35$. Y'a le fat stack qui pousse pratiquement à toute les mains, et les 4 autres sommes stackés entre 1200 et 2000 - sous les blinds de 200-400 - on est tout les 4 dans la merde, individuellement. Vous devinez déjà le type d'atmosphère qui va avec la situation.

Je suis SB avec 44, tous foldent à moi, le "fucking" $#%?@##? de fat stack aussi... Y'avait pas le droit, Pas là!! Pas quand le BB = mon stack de SB, lesquels sont les 2 plus bas avec un M de 2 (1 relativé! lol). Je fais un homme de moi et rempli mon devoir de joueur de poker en poussant - btw, si je le fais pas, j'aurai 3 mains après pour mover soit 2e, ou sachant qu'on me callera ; personne ne se risquera d'ici là, je crois - et je vois quoi ? Une putain de paire de 55. L'horreur. Et je perd. C'est la main ci-dessous. Je me retrouve avec 80 jetons ensuite. Ante 25!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP (t1820)
Button (t8780)
Hero (t1285)
BB (t1205)
UTG (t1910)
Preflop: Hero est SB avec 4, 4.
3 folds, Hero relance à t1260, BB égalise t780 (All-In).
Flop: (t2140) K, 9, 7 (2 joueurs, 1 all-in)
Tournant: (t2140) 8 (2 joueurs, 1 all-in)
Rivière: (t2140) A (2 joueurs, 1 all-in)
Pot final: t2140

Mais ils devaient tous être avec moi : jésus, jéovah, mohamed, boudda, le sensei des krishnas et pis le dieu des athées aussi. Parce que 9 mains plus tard, je me suis classé avec 1100 jetons! Incroyable sous cette pression, les joueurs ne savent pas jouer un satellite... Il y aurait dû y avoir ce qu'on appel de la "collusion implicite". Dans ce cas-ci, lorsque j'étais very low stack (80 chips, 290 chips,...), tous les joueurs auraient dû limpé et s'accorder un free showdown. Ben ils ont préférés jambonner! Si vous voullez voir le show, voici les 9 dernières mains miraculeuses:

PokerStars Game #8845565807: Tournament #44285679, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/03/11 - 04:51:55 (ET)
Table '44285679 1' 10-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: FishBot (1795 in chips)
Seat 4: juliooo (8755 in chips)
Seat 5: yaffy (80 in chips)
Seat 7: jevans829 (2485 in chips)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (1885 in chips)
FishBot: posts the ante 25
juliooo: posts the ante 25
yaffy: posts the ante 25
jevans829: posts the ante 25
daytrade96: posts the ante 25
jevans829: posts small blind 200
daytrade96: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yaffy [Ts Td]
FishBot: folds
juliooo: folds
yaffy: calls 55 and is all-in
jevans829: calls 200
daytrade96: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js Tc 5h]
jevans829: checks
daytrade96: checks
*** TURN *** [Js Tc 5h] [Ah]
jevans829: checks
daytrade96: checks
*** RIVER *** [Js Tc 5h Ah] [Ac]
jevans829: checks
daytrade96: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jevans829: shows [6h 5c] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
daytrade96: mucks hand
jevans829 collected 690 from side pot
yaffy: shows [Ts Td] (a full house, Tens full of Aces)
yaffy collected 290 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 980 Main pot 290. Side pot 690. | Rake 0
Board [Js Tc 5h Ah Ac]
Seat 2: FishBot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: juliooo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: yaffy (button) showed [Ts Td] and won (290) with a full house, Tens full of Aces
Seat 7: jevans829 (small blind) showed [6h 5c] and won (690) with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 9: daytrade96 (big blind) mucked [9c 6c]

PokerStars Game #8845569193: Tournament #44285679, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/03/11 - 04:52:24 (ET)
Table '44285679 1' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: FishBot (1770 in chips)
Seat 4: juliooo (8730 in chips)
Seat 5: yaffy (290 in chips)
Seat 7: jevans829 (2750 in chips)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (1460 in chips)
FishBot: posts the ante 25
juliooo: posts the ante 25
yaffy: posts the ante 25
jevans829: posts the ante 25
daytrade96: posts the ante 25
daytrade96: posts small blind 200
FishBot: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yaffy [Ac 3d]
juliooo: folds
yaffy: folds
jevans829: folds
daytrade96: folds
FishBot collected 525 from pot
FishBot: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 525 | Rake 0
Seat 2: FishBot (big blind) collected (525)
Seat 4: juliooo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: yaffy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jevans829 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #8845570882: Tournament #44285679, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level IX (300/600) - 2007/03/11 - 04:52:40 (ET)
Table '44285679 1' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: FishBot (2070 in chips)
Seat 4: juliooo (8705 in chips)
Seat 5: yaffy (265 in chips)
Seat 7: jevans829 (2725 in chips)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (1235 in chips)
FishBot: posts the ante 50
juliooo: posts the ante 50
yaffy: posts the ante 50
jevans829: posts the ante 50
daytrade96: posts the ante 50
FishBot: posts small blind 300
juliooo: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yaffy [8c 2h]
yaffy: folds
jevans829: folds
daytrade96: folds
FishBot: folds
juliooo collected 850 from pot
juliooo: shows [7c 7s] (a pair of Sevens)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 850 | Rake 0
Seat 2: FishBot (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: juliooo (big blind) collected (850)
Seat 5: yaffy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jevans829 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #8845572069: Tournament #44285679, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level IX (300/600) - 2007/03/11 - 04:52:50 (ET)
Table '44285679 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: FishBot (1720 in chips)
Seat 4: juliooo (9205 in chips)
Seat 5: yaffy (215 in chips)
Seat 7: jevans829 (2675 in chips)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (1185 in chips)
FishBot: posts the ante 50
juliooo: posts the ante 50
yaffy: posts the ante 50
jevans829: posts the ante 50
daytrade96: posts the ante 50
juliooo: posts small blind 300
yaffy: posts big blind 165 and is all-in
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yaffy [9c 2c]
jevans829: folds
daytrade96: folds
FishBot: folds
*** FLOP *** [9s 9h Th]
*** TURN *** [9s 9h Th] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [9s 9h Th Qc] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
juliooo: shows [Kc Qs] (a full house, Nines full of Queens)
yaffy: shows [9c 2c] (four of a kind, Nines)
yaffy collected 580 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 580 | Rake 0
Board [9s 9h Th Qc 9d]
Seat 2: FishBot (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: juliooo (small blind) showed [Kc Qs] and lost with a full house, Nines full of Queens
Seat 5: yaffy (big blind) showed [9c 2c] and won (580) with four of a kind, Nines
Seat 7: jevans829 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: daytrade96 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #8845574062: Tournament #44285679, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level IX (300/600) - 2007/03/11 - 04:53:08 (ET)
Table '44285679 1' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: FishBot (1670 in chips)
Seat 4: juliooo (8990 in chips)
Seat 5: yaffy (580 in chips)
Seat 7: jevans829 (2625 in chips)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (1135 in chips)
FishBot: posts the ante 50
juliooo: posts the ante 50
yaffy: posts the ante 50
jevans829: posts the ante 50
daytrade96: posts the ante 50
yaffy: posts small blind 300
jevans829: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yaffy [4h 8d]
daytrade96: folds
FishBot: folds
juliooo: folds
yaffy: calls 230 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Kd 4c 7s]
*** TURN *** [Kd 4c 7s] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [Kd 4c 7s Kc] [6d]
juliooo said, "HES BACK"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
yaffy: shows [4h 8d] (two pair, Kings and Fours)
jevans829: shows [3d 3c] (two pair, Kings and Threes)
yaffy collected 1310 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1310 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 4c 7s Kc 6d]
Seat 2: FishBot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: juliooo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: yaffy (small blind) showed [4h 8d] and won (1310) with two pair, Kings and Fours
Seat 7: jevans829 (big blind) showed [3d 3c] and lost with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 9: daytrade96 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #8845576435: Tournament #44285679, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level IX (300/600) - 2007/03/11 - 04:53:29 (ET)
Table '44285679 1' 10-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: FishBot (1620 in chips)
Seat 4: juliooo (8940 in chips)
Seat 5: yaffy (1310 in chips)
Seat 7: jevans829 (2045 in chips)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (1085 in chips)
FishBot: posts the ante 50
juliooo: posts the ante 50
yaffy: posts the ante 50
jevans829: posts the ante 50
daytrade96: posts the ante 50
jevans829: posts small blind 300
daytrade96: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yaffy [5s 2h]
FishBot: folds
juliooo: folds
yaffy: folds
jevans829: raises 1200 to 1800
juliooo said, "NICE YAFFY"
daytrade96: folds
jevans829 collected 1450 from pot
jevans829: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1450 | Rake 0
Seat 2: FishBot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: juliooo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: yaffy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jevans829 (small blind) collected (1450)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (big blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #8845578743: Tournament #44285679, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level IX (300/600) - 2007/03/11 - 04:53:49 (ET)
Table '44285679 1' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: FishBot (1570 in chips)
Seat 4: juliooo (8890 in chips)
Seat 5: yaffy (1260 in chips)
Seat 7: jevans829 (2845 in chips)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (435 in chips)
FishBot: posts the ante 50
juliooo: posts the ante 50
yaffy: posts the ante 50
jevans829: posts the ante 50
daytrade96: posts the ante 50
daytrade96: posts small blind 300
FishBot: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yaffy [6s Kh]
juliooo: raises 8240 to 8840 and is all-in
yaffy: folds
jevans829: folds
daytrade96: folds
FishBot: folds
juliooo collected 1750 from pot
juliooo: shows [5s 5d] (a pair of Fives)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1750 | Rake 0
Seat 2: FishBot (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: juliooo collected (1750)
Seat 5: yaffy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jevans829 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (small blind) folded before Flop

PokerStars Game #8845580143: Tournament #44285679, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level IX (300/600) - 2007/03/11 - 04:54:02 (ET)
Table '44285679 1' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: FishBot (920 in chips)
Seat 4: juliooo (9990 in chips)
Seat 5: yaffy (1210 in chips)
Seat 7: jevans829 (2795 in chips)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (85 in chips)
FishBot: posts the ante 50
juliooo: posts the ante 50
yaffy: posts the ante 50
jevans829: posts the ante 50
daytrade96: posts the ante 50
FishBot: posts small blind 300
juliooo: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yaffy [Qc 6s]
yaffy said, "whew"
yaffy said, "whew"
yaffy: folds
jevans829: folds
daytrade96: folds
FishBot: folds
juliooo collected 850 from pot
juliooo: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 850 | Rake 0
Seat 2: FishBot (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: juliooo (big blind) collected (850)
Seat 5: yaffy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jevans829 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

PokerStars Game #8845581343: Tournament #44285679, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level IX (300/600) - 2007/03/11 - 04:54:13 (ET)
Table '44285679 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: FishBot (570 in chips)
Seat 4: juliooo (10490 in chips)
Seat 5: yaffy (1160 in chips)
Seat 7: jevans829 (2745 in chips)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (35 in chips)
FishBot: posts the ante 50
juliooo: posts the ante 50
yaffy: posts the ante 50
jevans829: posts the ante 50
daytrade96: posts the ante 35 and is all-in
juliooo: posts small blind 300
yaffy: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yaffy [Jd Ah]
jevans829: folds
FishBot: folds
juliooo: calls 300
yaffy: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ac 8h Ks]
juliooo: checks
yaffy: checks
*** TURN *** [Ac 8h Ks] [3s]
juliooo: checks
yaffy: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ac 8h Ks 3s] [3d]
juliooo: checks
yaffy: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
juliooo: shows [9h 2s] (a pair of Threes)
yaffy: shows [Jd Ah] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
yaffy collected 1260 from side pot
daytrade96: mucks hand
juliooo said, "NICE"
yaffy collected 175 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1435 Main pot 175. Side pot 1260. | Rake 0
Board [Ac 8h Ks 3s 3d]
Seat 2: FishBot (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: juliooo (small blind) showed [9h 2s] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 5: yaffy (big blind) showed [Jd Ah] and won (1435) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 7: jevans829 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: daytrade96 mucked [Ts 7c]

Reste plus qu'à finir premier demain! easy. :-)

[Spexel]

good luck demain, p-e que ma le faire si jsuis reveiller avant 4h30.

[chadattak]

Wow chip and a chair hein! Bonne chance demain.

[Kerriman]

Wow, bonne chance Yaf!

[Rocket Piquette]

Yeah...le quads 9 est vraiment trop incroyable. Bonne chance...play to win!

[Cucaracha]

Envoyé par yaf

PokerStars Game #8845569193: Tournament #44285679, $10.70+$1.00 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round II, Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/03/11 - 04:52:24 (ET)
Table '44285679 1' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: FishBot (1770 in chips)
Seat 4: juliooo (8730 in chips)
Seat 5: yaffy (290 in chips)
Seat 7: jevans829 (2750 in chips)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (1460 in chips)
FishBot: posts the ante 25
juliooo: posts the ante 25
yaffy: posts the ante 25
jevans829: posts the ante 25
daytrade96: posts the ante 25
daytrade96: posts small blind 200
FishBot: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yaffy [Ac 3d]
juliooo: folds
yaffy: folds
jevans829: folds
daytrade96: folds
FishBot collected 525 from pot
FishBot: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 525 | Rake 0
Seat 2: FishBot (big blind) collected (525)
Seat 4: juliooo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: yaffy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: jevans829 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: daytrade96 (small blind) folded before Flop

Good job! Mais la main avec A3, je me demande pourquoi tu l'as foldé. Tu as 1/2BB et un Ace, je crois que je callerais.

Pour ta main avec 44, folder aurait été une erreur majeure. Good push.

[pjamez]

nice, good job.

Raszi sur liquidpoker à gagné un tournoi alors qu'il lui restait juste 2 chips à un moment donné, assez impressionnant aussi héhé

[yaf]

Envoyé par Cucaracha

Good job! Mais la main avec A3, je me demande pourquoi tu l'as foldé. Tu as 1/2BB et un Ace, je crois que je callerais

Oui, je doutais du bon jeu au moment où je l'ai fait, et je suis tjrs incertain!

Je me souviens encore ce qui s'est dit entre mes 2 oreilles pour me faire choisir le fold : "Si je sous-limp (1/2 BB!), les 2 blinds me callent automatiquement, et le button (T2500) va aussi limpé, par "colission implicit". "En contre partie, si j'attends, au pire je me retrouverai dans une situation similaire dans 2 mains, mais je peux espérer un miracle (2 adversaires qui se "poignent" ensemble, recevoir une grosse pocket, qui sait!!)...

Je ne sais toujours pas, avec certitude, si c'était la bonne ou mauvaise décision. Qu'est-ce que tu en penses ?

[Cucaracha]

Tu vas être all-in dans deux mains, donc, tu peux te permettre de caller avec le top 33% (il te reste 3 mains max avant d'être forcé à l'action), qui consiste en:

55+,A2s+,K4s+,Q6s+,J7s+,T7s+,98s,A5o+,K8o+,Q9o+,J9 o+,T9o

Donc j'aurais callé. Mais ne pas caller en espérant que les autres niaisent ensemble peut être bon, si tu vois que personne ne semble comprendre ce qu'est le bubble. Il peut toujours y avoir un low stack assez stupide pour pousser son stack dans qqn qui le couvre quand il te reste 1/2BB

[sebasdess]

Envoyé par Cucaracha

Tu vas être all-in dans deux mains, donc, tu peux te permettre de caller avec le top 33% (il te reste 3 mains max avant d'être forcé à l'action), qui consiste en:

55+,A2s+,K4s+,Q6s+,J7s+,T7s+,98s,A5o+,K8o+,Q9o+,J9 o+,T9o

Oui, question cote, c'était un call... PAR CONTRE, ce problème dépasse bcp les cotes, dans le sens qu'il faut accorder une valeur relative à chaque jetons en fonction du prizepool.

Ceci étant dit, je ne connais pas la bonne réponse!