Opinion sur quelques mains

[Masterfrank]

Voici quelques mains ou j'ai 2 pairs et que je paire des pots de + de 10$... Votre opinion serait apprécié...

Les mains ou je ne donne pas les stats du vilain c'est car j'ai un échantillon de moins de 100 mains, donc ont peut pas vraiment s'y fier, donc prenez en considération que c'est un joueur de nl25 typique.

Main 1

POKERSTARS GAME #16058027316: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/17 - 22:23:56 (ET)
Table 'Nerina III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Gin-NGolf ($16.65 in chips)
Seat 2: KJatl ($25.10 in chips)
Seat 3: kinigiter ($13.20 in chips)
Seat 4: Masterfrank ($26.20 in chips)
Seat 5: IdiAllin ($36.95 in chips)
Seat 6: jakeq1978 ($13.45 in chips)
jakeq1978: posts small blind $0.10
Gin-NGolf: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Masterfrank [Ad 8d]
KJatl: folds
kinigiter: folds
Masterfrank: raises $0.75 to $1
IdiAllin: folds
jakeq1978: calls $0.90
Gin-NGolf: folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 6s As]
jakeq1978: checks
Masterfrank: bets $1.25
jakeq1978: calls $1.25
*** TURN *** [2h 6s As] [9d]
jakeq1978: checks
Masterfrank: checks
*** RIVER *** [2h 6s As 9d] [8h]
jakeq1978: bets $2.50
Masterfrank: raises $5.50 to $8
jakeq1978: calls $5.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Masterfrank: shows [Ad 8d] (two pair, Aces and Eights)
jakeq1978: shows [6h 6d] (three of a kind, Sixes)
jakeq1978 collected $19.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20.75 | Rake $1
Board [2h 6s As 9d 8h]
Seat 1: Gin-NGolf (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: KJatl folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kinigiter folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Masterfrank showed [Ad 8d] and lost with two pair, Aces and Eights
Seat 5: IdiAllin (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: jakeq1978 (small blind) showed [6h 6d] and won ($19.75) with three of a kind, Sixes

Main 2
Vilain = 20/15 AF=2 sur 200 mains

POKERSTARS GAME #16036160928: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/16 - 23:41:18 (ET)
Table 'Syrma II' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: :maSkraP: ($42.50 in chips)
Seat 2: boozeorlose ($13.80 in chips)
Seat 5: Masterfrank ($34.40 in chips)
Seat 6: delachode ($27.60 in chips)
boozeorlose: posts small blind $0.10
Masterfrank: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Masterfrank [Ah Qd]
delachode: folds
:maSkraP:: raises $0.50 to $0.75
boozeorlose: folds
Masterfrank: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [As Tc 7h]
Masterfrank: checks
:maSkraP:: bets $1
Boolean has returned
Masterfrank: calls $1
*** TURN *** [As Tc 7h] [Ts]
Masterfrank: bets $1.50
:maSkraP:: calls $1.50
*** RIVER *** [As Tc 7h Ts] [Qc]
Masterfrank: bets $3
:maSkraP:: raises $6 to $9
Masterfrank: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
:maSkraP:: shows [Kc Jd] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Masterfrank: mucks hand
:maSkraP: collected $23.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24.60 | Rake $1.20
Board [As Tc 7h Ts Qc]
Seat 1: :maSkraP: (button) showed [Kc Jd] and won ($23.40) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 2: boozeorlose (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Masterfrank (big blind) mucked [Ah Qd]
Seat 6: delachode folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Main 3

POKERSTARS GAME #15965577647: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/14 - 01:55:50 (ET)
Table 'Nasl V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: SlumLord1 ($23.55 in chips)
Seat 2: bb_rule ($31.75 in chips)
Seat 3: Parseval ($26.35 in chips)
Seat 4: refloosh ($15 in chips)
Seat 5: vardmhr1 ($17.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Masterfrank ($47.65 in chips)
Masterfrank: posts small blind $0.10
SlumLord1: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Masterfrank [Kh Th]
bb_rule: folds
bb_rule leaves the table
Parseval: folds
refloosh: folds
vardmhr1: raises $0.75 to $1
Masterfrank: calls $0.90
SlumLord1: folds
*** FLOP *** [Td Ks 8s]
Masterfrank: bets $1.25
vardmhr1: raises $1.25 to $2.50
Masterfrank: calls $1.25
*** TURN *** [Td Ks 8s] [5s]
Masterfrank: checks
vardmhr1: bets $4.50
Masterfrank: calls $4.50
*** RIVER *** [Td Ks 8s 5s] [Qd]
Masterfrank: checks
vardmhr1: bets $9.60 and is all-in
Masterfrank: calls $9.60
*** SHOW DOWN ***
vardmhr1: shows [9h Jh] (a straight, Nine to King)
Masterfrank: mucks hand
vardmhr1 collected $33.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $35.45 | Rake $1.70
Board [Td Ks 8s 5s Qd]
Seat 1: SlumLord1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: bb_rule folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Parseval folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: refloosh folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: vardmhr1 (button) showed [9h Jh] and won ($33.75) with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 6: Masterfrank (small blind) mucked [Kh Th]

Main 4

POKERSTARS GAME #15943412326: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/13 - 02:49:08 (ET)
Table 'Tekmessa II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: boners_buddy ($24.80 in chips)
Seat 2: Masterfrank ($26.85 in chips)
Seat 3: HBPokerMan ($28.60 in chips)
Seat 4: PaddyMacaddy ($14.65 in chips)
Seat 5: ahardrain ($25.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Water5955 ($36.60 in chips)
Water5955: posts small blind $0.10
boners_buddy: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Masterfrank [Qs Qh]
Masterfrank: raises $1 to $1.25
HBPokerMan: folds
PaddyMacaddy: calls $1.25
ahardrain: folds
Water5955: folds
boners_buddy: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [5s 6c 5h]
boners_buddy: checks
Masterfrank: bets $2
PaddyMacaddy: calls $2
boners_buddy: folds
*** TURN *** [5s 6c 5h] [2d]
Masterfrank: bets $3.90
PaddyMacaddy: calls $3.90
*** RIVER *** [5s 6c 5h 2d] [9h]
Masterfrank: bets $7.50
PaddyMacaddy: calls $7.50 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Masterfrank: shows [Qs Qh] (two pair, Queens and Fives)
PaddyMacaddy: shows [8d 7d] (a straight, Five to Nine)
PaddyMacaddy collected $29.20 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $30.65 | Rake $1.45
Board [5s 6c 5h 2d 9h]
Seat 1: boners_buddy (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Masterfrank showed [Qs Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Fives
Seat 3: HBPokerMan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: PaddyMacaddy showed [8d 7d] and won ($29.20) with a straight, Five to Nine
Seat 5: ahardrain (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Water5955 (small blind) folded before Flop

Main 5
Vilain = 68/51/3 sur une 100 de mains
POKERSTARS GAME #15905704216: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/11 - 14:42:38 (ET)
Table 'Zeuxo II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: FuzzyLeFuzz ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 2: p9kerpete ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 3: Masterfrank ($24.65 in chips)
Seat 4: Poker92118 ($23.75 in chips)
Seat 5: Crazy_Udo ($65.10 in chips)
Masterfrank: posts small blind $0.10
Poker92118: posts big blind $0.25
crystalbalz: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Masterfrank [Kh Td]
Crazy_Udo: calls $0.25
FuzzyLeFuzz: folds
p9kerpete: folds
Masterfrank: raises $0.75 to $1
Poker92118: folds
Crazy_Udo: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Ks Ts 3d]
Masterfrank: bets $1
Crazy_Udo: raises $1 to $2
Masterfrank: raises $3 to $5
Crazy_Udo: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Ks Ts 3d] [8s]
Masterfrank: checks
Crazy_Udo: bets $9
Masterfrank: raises $9.65 to $18.65 and is all-in
Crazy_Udo: calls $9.65
*** RIVER *** [Ks Ts 3d 8s] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Masterfrank: shows [Kh Td] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
Crazy_Udo: shows [3s 7s] (a flush, King high)
Crazy_Udo collected $47.55 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $49.55 | Rake $2
Board [Ks Ts 3d 8s 9d]
Seat 1: FuzzyLeFuzz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: p9kerpete (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Masterfrank (small blind) showed [Kh Td] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens
Seat 4: Poker92118 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Crazy_Udo showed [3s 7s] and won ($47.55) with a flush, King high

Main 6

Vilain est 23/17/3 sur 250 mains

POKERSTARS GAME #15895275365: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/11 - 00:32:28 (ET)
Table 'Summa IV' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Stoners3 ($5.55 in chips)
Seat 2: Jersch0r ($15 in chips)
Seat 4: Masterfrank ($27.50 in chips)
Seat 5: JamaiKaShark ($23.30 in chips)
Seat 6: watership02 ($31.25 in chips)
Stoners3: posts small blind $0.10
Jersch0r: posts big blind $0.25
g_dUb1980: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Masterfrank [Qs Ah]
Masterfrank: raises $0.75 to $1
JamaiKaShark: raises $2 to $3
watership02: folds
Stoners3: folds
Jersch0r: folds
Masterfrank: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Ac Qd Kh]
Masterfrank: checks
JamaiKaShark: bets $6
Masterfrank: raises $18.50 to $24.50 and is all-in
JamaiKaShark: calls $14.30 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Ac Qd Kh] [6h]
*** RIVER *** [Ac Qd Kh 6h] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Masterfrank: shows [Qs Ah] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
JamaiKaShark: shows [Ad Kd] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
JamaiKaShark collected $44.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $46.95 | Rake $2
Board [Ac Qd Kh 6h 2h]
Seat 1: Stoners3 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Jersch0r (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Masterfrank showed [Qs Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
Seat 5: JamaiKaShark showed [Ad Kd] and won ($44.95) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 6: watership02 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Main 7

POKERSTARS GAME #15887532285: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/03/10 - 18:39:01 (ET)
Table 'Werdandi III' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: MRSFW ($15.70 in chips)
Seat 2: pykniker ($24.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Masterfrank ($52.35 in chips)
Dr. Right will be allowed to play after the button
Masterfrank: posts small blind $0.10
MRSFW: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Masterfrank [9s Ts]
pykniker: folds
Masterfrank: raises $0.75 to $1
MRSFW: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [Td 4d 6c]
Masterfrank: bets $1.25
MRSFW: calls $1.25
*** TURN *** [Td 4d 6c] [9h]
Masterfrank: bets $2
MRSFW: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [Td 4d 6c 9h] [6s]
Masterfrank: bets $3
MRSFW: raises $3 to $6
Masterfrank: calls $3
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MRSFW: shows [Ad 6d] (three of a kind, Sixes)
Masterfrank: mucks hand
MRSFW collected $19.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20.50 | Rake $1
Board [Td 4d 6c 9h 6s]
Seat 1: MRSFW (big blind) showed [Ad 6d] and won ($19.50) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 2: pykniker (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Masterfrank (small blind) mucked [9s Ts]

[Gimp]

Main 1- Tu es chanceux de pas avoir perdu + parce que moi je t'aurais reraiser l'cul assé vite sur la river.

Main 2- Je raise le flop. As played je bet plus le turn. River play as played je fold...ou p-e,p-e call en vomissant partout parce que ça me tente pas.

Main 3- C'est vraiment un drawy board et je crois je repop le flop assé solide ici.

Main 4- Shit happens, une open ended ça hit de temps en temps.

Main 5- Je raise plus le flop, bet le turn et considère un fold quand la flush tombe, malgré que c'est difficile avec les stats du vilain. Qq'un a une opinion ici sur le bon jeu à faire.

Main 6- J'ai jamais vraiment joué de NL25, mais au NL50 le monde 3 bet rarement qqchose pire que AQ+ TT+. Ici ton moove fait folder JJ et TT et tous le reste te snap call. J'aime pas bcp le push ici. Mia qu'est-ce que j'en sais moi any other toughts?

Main 7- Je bet plus sur le turn. Sinon c'est ok ya mal joué.

Je crois que tu devrais travailler ton bet sizing car tu bet souvent trop petit selon moi.

[Masterfrank]

Envoyé par Gimp

Main 1- Tu es chanceux de pas avoir perdu + parce que moi je t'aurais reraiser l'cul assé vite sur la river.

Main 2- Je raise le flop. As played je bet plus le turn. River play as played je fold...ou p-e,p-e call en vomissant partout parce que ça me tente pas.

Main 3- C'est vraiment un drawy board et je crois je repop le flop assé solide ici.

Main 4- Shit happens, une open ended ça hit de temps en temps.

Main 5- Je raise plus le flop, bet le turn et considère un fold quand la flush tombe, malgré que c'est difficile avec les stats du vilain. Qq'un a une opinion ici sur le bon jeu à faire.

Main 6- J'ai jamais vraiment joué de NL25, mais au NL50 le monde 3 bet rarement qqchose pire que AQ+ TT+. Ici ton moove fait folder JJ et TT et tous le reste te snap call. J'aime pas bcp le push ici. Mia qu'est-ce que j'en sais moi any other toughts?

Main 7- Je bet plus sur le turn. Sinon c'est ok ya mal joué.

Je crois que tu devrais travailler ton bet sizing car tu bet souvent trop petit selon moi.

Ta des lecture à me conseiller pour le bet sizing? merci des commentaires je vais les étudier très attentivement...

[Gimp]

Envoyé par Masterfrank

Ta des lecture à me conseiller pour le bet sizing?

http://www.pocketfives.com/BCFCA7BE-...416FD589F.aspx

Cet article s'applique au tournoi, mais je crois que cela s'applique très bien en cash game aussi.

Holdem theory and practice de Sklansky et Miller doit certainement avoir une section la dessus, mais ça fait longtemps que je ne l'ai pas lu alors tu pourras vérifier.

Envoyé par Masterfrank

merci des commentaires je vais les étudier très attentivement...

C'est bon d'étudier sa game obv, mais je n'ai pas la vérité absolue. P-e que certains de mes leaks se transposent dans mes réponses alors demande d'autres avis si possible.

[Gazou007]

Hint : trop de mains, pas assez de converter

[KmaX]

Envoyé par Gazou007

Hint : trop de mains, pas assez de converter

x100

please !

n'empêche, pairer le pot avec deux pairs, c'est en soi un exploit, keep it up !

[Gimp]

Ouin pas faux ça les gars!! J'ai rien à faire auj fak je les ai lues anyways!

[sebasdess]

Guide de la section Stratégie - Micro limite


Autant que possible, une main par message svp, sans quoi les gens ne prendront tout simplement pas le temps de répondre...

Main 1: bien joué.
Main 2: 3-bet preflop.
Main 3: fold preflop, ou si tu veux la jouer, 3-bet.
Main 4: bet + au turn
Main 5: fold turn, reraise + au flop ou cold-call, mais pas un raise min svp.
Main 6: fold après le 3-bet.
Main 7: bet + le turn; le reste est bien joué.

[KmaX]

C'est tellement beau avec des images...

Main 1
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($16.65)
UTG ($25.10)
MP ($13.20)
Masterfrank ($26.20)
Bouton ($36.95)
SB ($13.45)
Preflop: Masterfrank is CO with A, 8.
2 folds, Masterfrank raises to $1, 1 fold, SB égalise $0.90, 1 fold.
Flop: ($2.25) 2, 6, A (2 joueurs)
SB check, Masterfrank bets $1.25, SB égalise $1.25.
Tournant: ($4.75) 9 (2 joueurs)
SB check, Masterfrank checks.
Rivière: ($4.75) 8 (2 joueurs)
SB mise $2.5, Masterfrank raises to $8, SB égalise $5.50.
Pot final: $20.75
Résultats en blanc ci-dessous:
SB has 6h 6d (three of a kind, sixes).
Masterfrank has Ad 8d (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: SB wins $20.75.
Main 2
Vilain = 20/15 AF=2 sur 200 mains
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
Bouton ($42.50)
SB ($13.80)
Masterfrank ($34.40)
UTG ($27.60)
Preflop: Masterfrank is BB with , .
1 fold, Bouton relance à $0.75, 1 fold, Masterfrank calls $0.50.
Flop: ($1.60) , , (2 joueurs)
Masterfrank checks, Button bets $1, Masterfrank calls $1.
Tournant: ($3.60) (2 joueurs)
Masterfrank bets $1.5, Bouton égalise $1.50.
Rivière: ($6.60) (2 joueurs)
Masterfrank bets $3, Bouton relance à $9, Masterfrank calls $6.
Pot final: $24.60
Résultats en blanc ci-dessous:
Masterfrank has Ah Qd (two pair, aces and queens).
Button has Kc Jd (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Button wins $24.60.
Main 3
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)
BB ($23.55)
UTG ($31.75)
MP ($26.35)
CO ($15)
Bouton ($17.60)
Masterfrank ($47.65)
Preflop: Masterfrank is SB with , .
3 folds, Bouton relance à $1, Masterfrank calls $0.90, 1 fold.
Flop: ($2.25) , , (2 joueurs)
Masterfrank bets $1.25, Bouton relance à $2.5, Masterfrank calls $1.25.
Tournant: ($7.25) (2 joueurs)
Masterfrank checks, Button bets $4.5, Masterfrank calls $4.50.
Rivière: ($16.25) (2 joueurs)
Masterfrank checks, Button bets $9.6 (All-In), Masterfrank calls $9.60.
Pot final: $35.45
Résultats en blanc ci-dessous:
Masterfrank has Kh Th (two pair, kings and tens).
Button has 9h Jh (straight, king high).
Outcome: Button wins $35.45.