25-50 four handed

[Kirb]

J'ai cross-post de 2+2 parce que cétait mieux décrit que celui javais posté ici


My own image from these regulars is that I'm a heads-up only player, and that I'm probably an underdog in their game. In a 6max game im about 32/25 and most of these guys know that. They probably also think I call too light.

Seat 2: I_NEED_IT ($10,195.00)
Seat 3: neziard ($9,234.00)
Seat 4: Kirbynatorz ($7,123.03)
Seat 5: SgtTenPenny ($4,700.00)
neziard posts the small blind of $25.00
Kirbynatorz posts the big blind of $50.00
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Kirbynatorz[Ah Qc]
SgtTenPenny folds
I_NEED_IT raises to $175.00
neziard folds
Kirbynatorz raises to $600.00
I_NEED_IT calls $425.00
*** FLOP *** [Kc 5c Ts]
Kirbynatorz bets $930.00
I_NEED_IT calls $930.00
*** TURN *** [Kc 5c Ts] [4c]
Kirbynatorz bets $3,085.00


vilain is 39/29/2.4 on about 50 hands at this limit (we played a bit hu 10-20 before and we played a bit of 10-20 6max too), seen him with a 32k and 23k stack yesterday he seemed to bully pretty much everyone around and running hot.

I think his real stats are around 34/28 and a bit more aggressive.


Do you think hand 1 is a bit too telegraphed as a committing bet with a draw?



This hand is about 5 hands later.


Seat 2: I_NEED_IT ($8,690.00)
Seat 3: neziard ($9,284.00)
Seat 4: Kirbynatorz ($8,651.03)
Seat 5: SgtTenPenny ($4,625.00)
I_NEED_IT posts the small blind of $25.00
neziard posts the big blind of $50.00
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Kirbynatorz[Ac 5c]
Kirbynatorz raises to $175.00
SgtTenPenny folds
I_NEED_IT raises to $575.00
neziard folds
Kirbynatorz calls $400.00
*** FLOP *** [2h 4h 2c]
I_NEED_IT bets $885.00
Kirbynatorz calls $885.00
*** TURN *** [2h 4h 2c] [9d]
I_NEED_IT checks
Kirbynatorz bets $1,000.00


Here I made a move on the turn I basically do maybe 10% of the time (bet one third of the pot).

The way he plays im pretty sure he bets the turn again with 88+ just about all the time to get value from underpairs and flush draws.

My plan was to make AJ AQ AK fold (which I thought were the hands he had most of the time here), and if he called I could put him on a smaller pocket and make a big bet on the river on MOST rivs (non-pairing board, etc.)

I know this might be a bit risky if he slowplays a big pair but I think he rarely has that deep checking the turn because he knows he can get a couple streets of thin value against me because I probably calldown way too much in 6max...



What do you guys think?

[SimB]

tu pense kon se rendra pas compte que celui ki la écrit c ton adversaire?

i need it

ou c juste voir si le gars pense comme il faut?
(pas lu le texte encore)

[Kirb]

non cest moi qui a posté ca sur 2+2

[SimB]

ha jsuis en train de jouer faq jpeut pas cheacker mais c que jai vu ste phrase la

Here I made a move on the turn I basically do maybe 10% of the time (bet one third of the pot).

+ écrit en anglais

c l'autre gars qui bet sur le turn
tk jva venir voir sa tanto :P

[Kirb]

non c pas lui qui bet au turn

[Kirb]

Today, 09:13 PM #2 jfish vbmenu_register("postmenu_2085944", true);
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Re: 25-50 four handed
i think in h2, your turn bet is awesome. it severely discourages him to make a c/r ai with overcards. i might bet closer to 25% pot tbh.

in h1, eh whatever. why not. he doesnt have a K all that much i suppose.
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Re: 25-50 four handed
The first hand I'm not a huge fan of but it's fine occasionally. If you have been pretty active recently I like it even less. However he's really put to a tough decision as the board gets worse and so you're going to fold out quite a lot of hands here.

Second hand is a good mix-up play. I like.
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Re: 25-50 four handed
h2 is terrible

he will jam better ace rag every time, if he folds you had the best hand and sometimes worse hands jam on u. obv he's never folding a pair, youve got some decent equity vs better ace rag anyways etc
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Re: 25-50 four handed
im pretty sure he doesnt raise me with ace high on the turn... almost certain of it to be honest...

8600 deep you think he's going to raise my 1000 to 6000 all in?

I really really doubt that... maybe it's because even the aggressive guys on this site are less aggressive than those on fulltilt... but i really rarely see this happening in this spot.

if you said he could jam sometimes with ace high then I think you could be right but i completely disagree on the "jamming ace high EVERY TIME"

In fact, not that I am result oriented but I'm pretty sure he had a higher ace here. Timing tells and the time he took to fold and etc.


Personnally I could be playing the hand the exact same way with 99 or 44 or a flush draw or 77... or AK high.. A5high... I can make this move with most of my hands in this spot


on another note if you think he plays like this with a higher ace high and you check back and you dont hit 5/gutshot on riv do you try to take it down or show it down?
Last edited by Kirbynator : Today at 10:02 PM.

[SimB]

haa désolé, j'ai tout regardé comme il faut


Pour la 2e mains, j'aime pas la façon dont tu la jouer car tu pue la weekness

y va souvent te reraiser a un peut plus de 3K et t'aura pas le choix de folder

et t'aura pas plus l'info pour savoir si ya une bonne mains ou de la marde


je betterai au moins 2 tier du pot, car il fold les main du range que tu pense

[Kirb]

je peux faire la meme chose avec une fullhouse ou 88 et caller un shove

[SimB]

sa été koi sa réponse a ton raise sur la 2e main?

[Kirb]

ya pas de raise sur la 2eme main...